Former President Barack Obama and President-elect Donald Trump were seen sharing what seemed to be a friendly exchange on Thursday, ahead of former President Jimmy Carter’s funeral. However, a professional lip reader suggested their outward smiles and lighthearted demeanor masked a weightier discussion.

Trump, 78, appeared cautious of the cameras capturing their conversation as they sat together in the pews. He reportedly told Obama, 63, that they should “find a quiet place” later to address a “matter of importance,” according to forensic lip reader Jeremy Freeman.

While the specifics of their discussion remain uncertain, Freeman’s interpretation indicated the two were talking about international agreements.

At one point, Trump leaned toward Obama and remarked, “I’ve pulled out of that. It’s the conditions. Can you imagine that?”

Obama chuckled as Trump added, “and after, I will,” before the television coverage shifted focus away from the pair. The two were seated between former first lady Laura Bush and Trump’s wife, Melania.

Freeman interpreted Trump saying, “Call me at the foy after, yep,” seemingly referring to the foyer of the National Cathedral. Obama responded with, “can you just … it should be good.”

Trump reiterated, “I can’t talk, we have to find a quiet place sometime. This is a matter of importance and we need to do this outside so that we can deal with it, certainly, today,” to which Obama nodded in agreement.

Trump’s presidency was marked by the withdrawal from several of Obama’s signature initiatives, such as the Iran nuclear deal and the Paris Climate Agreement, though it is unclear if these topics were part of their conversation.

Jeremy Freeman, a London-based forensic lip reader, has been deaf since birth and works as a University College London-certified expert witness, providing services to litigants, law enforcement, and journalists for the past 16 years.

The relationship between Trump and Obama has been strained for years, with Trump repeatedly accusing Obama of orchestrating federal surveillance of his 2016 campaign over alleged connections to Russia. Trump often uses Obama’s full name, highlighting his middle name, “Hussein.”

Obama, in turn, has taken public jabs at Trump. During the Democratic National Convention in August, Obama made what many saw as a suggestive joke about Trump’s preoccupation with crowd sizes, gesturing with his hands only a few inches apart.

In October, Obama criticized Trump’s lengthy speeches, comparing them to those of Fidel Castro, and mocked Trump’s “constant attempts to sell you stuff,” referencing items like golden sneakers and Trump-branded Bibles.

{Matzav.com}